The posting of the whiteboard
I think it's important that you all know I'm smiling when I say this. So, uh, I'm smiling
Fuck you.
I'm pretty sure that covers it. However I know some people like details, and I am, as always, happy to provide them. I've got all the time in the world now.
This is actually quite hard to write, because my natural tendency is too be a dick-head and escalate this as quickly as I can. That's not the goal here. The goal is for me to answer my critics (in this case Joel and Nise, my housemates) as thoroughly as possible. Besides a full on verbal war would be the height of hilarity, and I'd win. Haha.
I love being conceited on a Wednesday afternoon.
OK. Let's go. It starts with a whiteboard:

I'll type out what was written for you:
Fellas
Before Ruth comes we need to clean this house good.
Pick a room + make it spotless for Friday (vacuum/mop too).
1. Kitchen -
2. Bathroom -
3. Livingroom + hallway -
Joelie - I'll do our room as well
I don't like. It is certainly not my position not to ever clean the house again. Leaving purely subjective conversations about the quality of any cleaning anyone is the house may have attempted aside, I'll try to explain what my reaction was.
Piss. Off.
Last time (a couple of weeks before this) a massive house clean was called (*sigh* yes. In the same way, on a fucking whiteboard, because poor Joel and Nise were born without tongues) I spent 2+ hours scrubbing the bathroom. Joel and Nise did the dishes. Sorry. Did their dishes.
Now as they are inevitably reading this, I'd not want them to get too carried away. Yet. I'll remind them that moving your shit from the lounge isn't a massive favor in the "cleaning up stakes". There is also a pet hate of mine. I despise having to wash things up to use them. So naturally I'll not be fucking washing them up after I've already had to clean them to use them.
So imagine my shock when I read this request on the whiteboard. Then imagine my disgust I feel that it was the slack fuckers that raised it. It's insulting.
Now I'll add that it was written when we were all in the house, awake, and up and about. Actually entire conversations had taken place. Sneaking up to the whiteboard and writing this... it's spineless.
Then think about the driving force behind the request. Because you have a guest coming. That's selfish.
So I've just been insulted by the spinelessly selfish.
I reply, it's in the picture:

Again, typed:
I would, but I checked my give-a-shit sack, and it was terribly empty. 'specally after the last 'house clean' we had, that was me doing 2+ hours in the bathroom, and someone doing the dishes...
Yes. Confrontational. Maybe. I was pretty pissed off. I went out, did some shopping (where I obtained the awesome new toys I've posted about recently) and came home.
Again, the board:

Again, typed:
Give a little, take a little bro.
P.S. I actually cleaned all my stuff from the living room, etc. too
I was speechless. Just as well, no-one was at home.
Give and take? The does imply that there was been some taking on my part! I think I'm lost, because I just fail to see it. This doesn't mean it's not there. It just means that I don't see it, and I've not quite been able to see it, and chaps I'm trying. Now I admit that Joel and Nise's contributions to the comedic side of my life with this event has been massive. Especially Nise's postings in various places. Comedy genius. Oh, hang on, I'm going to get to use "condescending" about someone else now. I'd love to know they "give" that allows such a condescending message to be left.
I'm loving the word condescending. I'm finding it very... oh, I don't know... versatile at the moment?
I think I've already dealt with the picking up stuff comment.
I'm passing out of anger and frustration into the dismissive now:

Typed:
Ahh. What was I thinking? Let me make this easier. No.
The end.
Or not. A small row. My statement, and for some reason Nise thinks I shouted. I can assure you that I didn't, and if I ever need to, they'll not have to think I was thinking. I think we look some more at this row later.
Now the end.
Or not again.
I photographed the whiteboard, once when I got in from shopping, and then when I wrote my last reply. I did it because it was amusing. I knew that I'd get a kick later out of the little fuckers, and the shear balls it must take to write something like that, and then think you are 100% right about it.
Well, I wasn't wrong. I found it so funny I blogged it, along with a fuckload of other stuff.
A short time later I linked to my blog, and not to the post.
Then I went to bed. Then I got up, and all hell was a-coming.
The posting of the comments part 1 - The Board
First I'll deal with what was written on the board, which is an online place where we all hang out. I'm doing this first because most of you won't have access to it, so it'll be new. It sure is interesting.
Post #1 by ♦Kit (25/10/05 @ 07:40:05)
I've blogged about some pictures:
http://www.slightlydisgruntled.co.uk/blog/blogindex.htm
There is some good stuff there... including my new Haloween mask.
However Anne will want to see:
Dan and Brad
and you all want to see:
Joel in a tiara
Haha.
Apparently a bastard since 1981
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Post #2 by ♦Kit (25/10/05 @ 07:43:03)
I have no idea why some of the links didn't work. You guys can suss it.
Also please leave comments. I find them funny, especally when trying to do a prince2 course.
You might have to go into the archive to see some, as I've made about 20 posts tonight. Sometimes I get busy.
Be warned, I'm not a happy bunny at the moment, and can make certain other members of our little friend group look like a fucking teletubby at times for misery and self pity.
Apparently a bastard since 1981
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Post 1 and 2 are me putting things up. The links were supposed to go to a picture of Dan (Anne's old boss from when she lived with me in the UK) and a picture of Joel is a little tiara. Point is, I'm not drawing attention to anything to do with anything white, nor boardie. However I clearly forgot that the world revolves around Joel and Nise, so naturally they seem to think I was.
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Post #3 by ♦lara (25/10/05 @ 05:50:11)
oh dear.
I thought you didn't pollute your body with any form of drugs :|
i'm not zee board very much (unless it's after work hours and my boss can't do anything), but you can always me if you want to have a rant... you know i'm good with the unhappy bitchy rants :)
Fark me dead. Id go nuts on a desert island by myself with nothing but the internet.
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Post #4 by ♦Willis (25/10/05 @ 08:10:28)
kit.. blow me.. I'm lonely
Security isn’t anything more than superstition. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all
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Post #5 by ♦Anne (25/10/05 @ 08:33:42)
Cool, so... who's brad?
...NO, really =)
Anyway say hi to dan from me!
(Best boss ever!)
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Post 3, 4, 5 are replies. Pretty standard. Um except for Wills, I have no idea what he's on there.
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Post #6 by ♦nise (Yesterday @ 12:13:08)
FUCK you whine a lot.
I particularly like how you post your angsty bullshit about cleaning our house to the world, then link it to the other world that doesn't read your blog.
Get over yourself. There is nothing that fkn bad in your life. God forbid you ever have a real problem.
You say tomato. I say no thanks, I've given up alcohol.
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Post 6 is where it gets... interesting.
An insult followed by an assumption. Great. I think it's worth noting that I suspect that Joel and Nise don't like that fact this was put anywhere because they are ashamed, which is good, because I'd be too if I was them.
I'm ignoring the usage of the word "angsty" because I see no actual angst in my post about the whiteboard, but that might just be my perpective. I suspect that Nise misused the word, and is trying to use it as a derogatory term here.
I also like the fact they assume no-one on this message board reads my site. Hits from Aus and comments suggest otherwise, but HEY! Who am I to point out something obvious like the facts.
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Post #7 by ♦Joel (Yesterday @ 12:49:48)
I dont know why you would want to discuss this stuff on a public forum and never to our faces kit,, but if you want to, then its not a problem.
seriously, the world is not caving in! Your NOT living in a flea infested shit pit! If you don't like it, then try something different? New job, new friends, move country, go visit another country!Whatever you like. Cause at the end of the day, its your problem.
anyways, not too fussed either way, but not sure if anyone on the board would want to see it all anyways.
Get SKYPE and msg me over here! AND get VSkype (www.vskype.com) and you can have video too! SKYPE ROCKS!
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Post 7 is Nicer, because it's a little more rational. It does start with a fallacy though. Sorry, we did have a conversation about it. Less than 24 hours before. Then it wonders a bit. Not too happy with what it has to say, because... yeah, the world has pretty much caved in for me. And I do view this house, and the state it is in as a flea infested shit pit. One thing I do agree on is that it's my problem, but then... it was posted on my blog! Funny that! I think we touch on this point later.
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Post #8 by ♦Kit (Yesterday @ 03:40:48)
Well this is unexpected.
Um, I'm moving it off here, because where I express myself is a better place than right here, but if you want to see any more chaps, wonder over to the site. This place, however, is for our friends. I'm in agreement with Joel. Not here, but oh so definatly THERE.
Apparently a bastard since 1981
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Post 8 is agreement from me with Joel, and a statement that this was unexpected. As statements go, that's pretty black and white. I hightlight this because I resent the implication that I pointed people to this, very small, part of a blog of... well, 260+ postings in the past few months.
I did tell everyone it'll continue somewhere else, because frankly I'm worried that Joel and Nise would view it as some sort of victory, and their behavior was starting to appall me.
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Post #9 by ♦nise (Yesterday @ 06:29:09)
There is good. This was my favourite part:
Anonymous said...
nise you are a fucking bitch and i never liked you. i hope you enjoy kicking someone when they are down, cause karma dictates someone will to you one day! :)
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Post 9... we get to that later, because Nise is talking about a comment posted on my site. Which leads us nicely to:
The posting of the comments part 2 - Blogger comments
Phew. This is getting tiring. I do think it's important to be thorough in clearing ones name though.
You can find this all on the original posting here
Nise said...
Yeah, sure would be a shame to forget about that awesomely needless display of agression.
3:11 PM
Kristian said...
Needless? There is no such thing as NEEDLESS agression.
And if anything, it was passive agression, as I just said no. And because I said so.
3:17 PM
All civil and pretty tame. Just for the record, my statement about NEEDLESS aggression was a joke. We all know what agression from midgets should not be tolerated.
Joel said...
meh, no need for this on a blog.
mmm.... potato chips.
4:48 PM
Something about this really bothered me. It has a feeling (to me) of censorship. I know that's not how Joel intended it, but it still annoys me. This is my fucking blog! I control it! MINE! It's not a collaborative effort, and I really think this DOES have a place here as it is something that happened to me.
Know what else upsets me? They'll sit and laugh about my responses to Emma during our breakup, but when it's cast at them, well... not appropriate Kit! That's just annoying! By all means step up if you think I've slapped you, that is, after all, what I'm doing here, but to suggest it shouldn't be here at all? Not good.
The potato chips comment is a good "whatever" statement though.
Nise said...
Your idea of passive is fucking laughable. You nearly burst a blood vessel yelling at us.
You certainly said a lot more than 'no'.
4:49 PM
Nise said...
See - I think there's no need for it on a blog wither, but apparently that's the only time Kristian feels comfortable speaking his mind, so here. we. are.
OK. More fun. I didn't nearly burst anything and there was no yelling. That's just a fact chaps.
I did say more than no to you, but I think I covered it with "No". I certainly wrote nothing after that. until now, of course.
And then an agreement with Joel, which we know I don't like, but it's their opinion and therefore their prerogative. It's tailed by something that isn't true. I speak my mind. Often. I spoke it on that fucking whiteboard. This comment simply isn't true. And then another bit "so here. we. are."
Which leads me to my next point. You. Don't. Have. To. Be. Here.
4:51 PM
Anonymous said...
nise you are a fucking bitch and i never liked you. i hope you enjoy kicking someone when they are down, cause karma dictates someone will to you one day! :)
5:21 PM
I want to make something clear. I put my name to things. This is one of you readers posting something, and not me. I'd put my name to it. Always have, and always fucking will. I'm proud of what I have to say.
Kristian said...
Now I just find this hilarious.
Joels comment - I disagree. That's why it's MY blog.
Nise - Ah, I think I have a different memory, and sweetiee, if you WANT me to yell, oh I really will. That was restrained after you saunter in and ask me about it.
And anon - um...
6:37 PM
Fairly self-explanatory.
Joel said...
Honestly I think putting house affairs on a website is pretty childish, but if thats what you want to with your publci voice, then I don't actually mind.
This is mainly because your problem isn't really with Denise and I (although if that is it, then tell us and we can go our separate ways).
Dude, everyone hits a low points in their lives at different times and for different reasons. When you are there you have 3 options. 1)You can hide in a shell and change nothing in your life and pray it will all be better soon (maybe become relgious too). 2) You can run away from your problems, perhaps skip the country? or 3) Try and face your problems and work out what will actually help. Perhaps get help from those arround you? And make some tough decisions to improve your life.
Anyway you only live once dude, remember no regrets!
12:27 AM
I like this post as well. Wait. No I don't. Fucking childish! Me? Gah! I need to be shown now how it is childish to post this to my blog. We've already established that I didn't draw any undue attention to it. Then I wonder: Do they think the world revolves around Joel and Nise? Do they think that all of this was a plot to out them as the filthy housemates that they are? Because it really wasn't.
A note on filth. My room is messy. Joel's office can get pretty messy. I've not seen Nise's room for a while, so can't comment. Mess is where you have you're shit out. Filth is where you don't vacuum and wash dishes, and are generally gross. Which I. Am. Not. I don't mind mess, I hate filth.
The rest of the message is pretty constructive. I like the rest of it. No Joel, the problem isn't with you tow as people. It's with your attitudes. Oh, and the responses.
I almost read some of this as an offer of support...
... and yes buddy, that's the key. No regrets.
So, while happy, I'll add this... if you want to see fucking childish, check my new door decoration:

It'll make sense later.
Nise said...
Wow - the same person who used to snipe on my LJ made it to Kit's site! Nice. Sarah Lomas..? Anna..? Whatever. It's hard to 'kick someone when they're down' if they don't just stay there on the floor and weep.
Kitty. This is silly. I did 'saunter' in and ask why you wouldn't help us clean, yeah, coz I read your bitchy message on our whiteboard and asked you about it straight away. At least I did it face to face though. At least I wasn't as fake as it turns out you were last night.
But seriously. If that's your idea of restrained then you have a very skewed perception of what's acceptable behaviour. Just like me :o) Pot to kettle - you are black. Over.
But I guess we knew your perception of reality is a bit off, from the guy who didn't drink for 3 months and lost 25kg in a week.
9:22 AM
*sigh*. OK. I try to make sense of this. I think:
"It's hard to 'kick someone when they're down' if they don't just stay there on the floor and weep." is supposed to be:
"It's hard not to 'kick someone when they're down' if they just stay there on the floor and weep."
Which I admit I do, but I'm unhappy and depressed. For some reason the magic "over-it" fairy hasn't been to visit me yet, so I remain depressed. Sorry kiddos, but until she waves that wand (something that, as I believe I've said before, I'm assured comes with time).
OK. The message on the board wasn't bitchy. It was a fucking statement of a fucking fact. And yes, she did have the conversation face to face. Um. Pity you couldn't have started it that way really. But I see the deployment of double standards here, where it's OK for them to write on the whiteboard, but apparently not for me.
And I'm not a fake person. I was fine with them last night, because I'm still fine with them now. It's this issue, and the surrounding behavior that bothers me.
Kristian said...
Ah Nise. You did saunter. You also didn't fuck off when I said I didn't want to talk about it.
I think you totally misunderstand something... I'm not actually interested in your opinion. At all. I don't really value your factual comments on what happened when, because I don't just "believe" it happens I different way, I know. That's why I'm still happy to smile and say hi to you. If you can't comparmentalise this, then that mate is definatly going to have to be your problem, because it sure as hell isn't mine!
Damn your eyes, you totally beat me to the pot/kettle thing. But yes, that was restrained, becauase as message on a whiteboard pisses me off.
And for the record it's 2 months no drinking, and 25kgs in two weeks. And they are both hideously true because I am a firm believer that the first is where the SUPERMEGAMYSTERYVIRUS came from. The weight is unfortunate, because as you might be able to recall I was serious gym stylie before it happened, and most of the weight loss was not fat, but muscle. I remember returning home to rant about how I was back to nearly the same weight as when I started after SUPERMEGAMYSTERYVIRUS was done with me.
3:55 PM
Knives out, I go in. In hindsight, a little foolhardy, and quite confrontational.
Just so you know, the SUPERMEGAMYSTERYVIRUS was, I believe, the flu, with some awesome dehydration complications.
And I have a cold at the moment, which is bad, because I'm a typical male and it's the end of the world when I am sick, but (to be fair) has been made worse by a training course and exam.
Nise said...
You stopped drinking when you got sick. August 1 you came home smashed, remember? Out of the first 4 days you'd drunk on 3 of them. I found it funny because it was your idea not to drink in August, and I stopped and you didn't. You may be confusing us, but I'll make the distinction a little easier - I'm the pretty one. August 4 Joel got home, and you were still drinking then, then you got sick. You then started drinking in Australia.. the 20th wasn't it? So at best you got 2 weeks.
And I somehow doubt you put on 25kg of muscle before you got sick. So if you'd lost 25kg, you'd be as thin as Joel. You weren't. Stop lying to yourself.
The thing you're missing is - I don't care whether you're interested in my opinion or not, because you chose bring this up in a public forum and link to it to make sure we knew it was here, so I'm going to reply. I'm not saying it for your benefit, I don't care about aligning your opinion to mine. I DO, however, like pointing out riduculous inconsistencies in your ranting.
And btw.. I think it's spectacularly retarded to think that NOT drinking can make you so ill. It's somewhat reminiscent of schizophrenics thinking their medication is making them worse. I'd say it's got more to do with the drinking you WERE doing at the time, as well as your mental state. Sometimes your body just tells you to give it a fkn rest, and I think that's more likely what it was. Coz.. we KNOW you were drinking at the time. You even remarked to us that you thought you may as well continue not drinking since you'd done a week by default coz you'd been so sick.
Just open your eyes.
5:21 PM
I'm getting tired. I deal with most of this in my reply.
Kristian said...
Sorry Nise. Maths will hurt you. Try to get your pretty little female head around this:
Stand on scales at gym. 124kgs. Fat fucker. After 2 mo9nths of gym, but that's OK, because I was neither going up or down.
Get ill. Get better. Stand on scales at gym. 99kgs.
I used my super computational bran to make that... 25kgs!
Sometimes I amaze myself.
For those of you that are counting, I'm now... 101kgs. My target weight is 90. That's a personal target, as I'm now safely in the "normal" category on the old BMI. Bit of a result really.
And I never said I lost it all in muscle, I implied it, because that'd be my understanding because I could lift an amount before illness, and couldn't after. It's probably wrong. Just as well I never said it then. I did magnificently imply it, but that's because I don't recall my fat ever being something that'd help me bench. Of course another explanation could be that I was still exhausted from the illness, and so just not able to life the normal weight. Not sure. I don't actually understand all of it, but that's OK, there's plenty I do understand.
As for not drinking... sorry buddy, I started drinking 1 week into being in Aus. I also went to Aus 2 weeks after being sick. I was sick for 2 weeks. Fuck, already at 5 weeks hun. So my 2 months is a damn sight closer than your 1 week.
I also made copious jokes WHILE being sick that I quite drinking for a couple of weeks and look at what happens. So lets be generous and give me a week. That's 6 weeks. Fuck. You.
While we're at it, let's address the reality of the "claim" that I make that not drinking makes me sick. It's a joke. I know it's a joke, you know it's a joke, and everyone else knows it's a joke. Either that or they shouldn't be allowed to read for reasons of terminal stupidity.
Um what's left. Dum-de-dum. Ah. I'm happy your happy I don't care about your opinion. That's great. Agreement.
I'd like to deal with the more sinister of your implications though: that I put a link somewhere for you to find it. Um. You live with me. I've seen you read this before. I certainly didn't do anything clandestinely. No sir. I actually didn't think you'd give as much of a fuck. I think I've decided to take it as a sign of shame over what you wrote on the board, as you are clearly upset that this was made "public".
Ah. Where are the random inconstancies now?
Nise why don't you leave it? You're wrong. You are never, ever going to know more about me than I do. Lucky you.
You know what guys, I feel a POST coming on
Ah, I get annoyed. I regret adding "pretty little female" to the get your head around comment, but I was, and am, pissed off.
That's no excuse for the tone I set though. I do ante up pretty quick, but I do feel I am somewhat baited by someone overly in love with their own opinions.
I think I covered everything else in my wordy reply. Even if it was all very sarcastic, which is a little embarrassing, because sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I guess I was just going for the lowest common denominator. Shit, sorry. Cheap shot. I'm just finding that as this gets worse, I care less what I say, because I care much less about them, and their opinions.
So that is the correspondence to date. Know what, I hate my house. I hate my life here in the shitty place. Living with a couple is hard. Hell living with people is hard, but this... this is going to get harder. I'm not likely to let this go, because this is an issue I feel strongly about. They can't wondering into my space and shit on me, and get away with it. It's just not going to happen. I feel worse because they think they are so... justified.
I think we can safely say that friendships are damaged. Sad, but hardly surprising. It's sad that the majority of the fighting seems to be between me and Nise, and Joel is just sort of dragged in. I'm aware that I've apportioned blame evenly in my evaluation here, where maybe I shouldn't have. Joel is, at least, normally trying to be constructive. I remain equally neutral to them both in the "real world" because this is a war of words, and, to my mind, of opinions and standards. I do view them as a unit though. That'd be because they behave as one. When it suits them.
I like to keep the online fights online, and always have been able to. Nise can't. She views it as being "fake as it turns out you were last night" or something. Which is interesting, because she was the same way. Oh well, fuck 'em. Joel is either just getting sick, like I have been, or is just as pissed off with me. I find it hard to see it as being anything other than "us" and "them". Pity, but the house has always (and I guess that's the way it is, because it's the way it was when Emma and I were in a shared house) felt a little like I was staying in their space. Now it's just even more so, because they really don't want me here. Trust me I just checked by walking into the lounge room.
Which isn't angst, by the way, because I'm not anxious about it.
OK. In the interest of fairness, I've invited Joel and Nise at have blogger access to this blog to post replies, rather than do it in the comments, because all the RSS readers, and all the visitors can read their points of view. Remember guys, what I have to say is only 1 side of the story. They will have valid stuff as well, because ultimately... I'm a total cunt.
Listening to: The Hardest Part from the album "X&Y" by Coldplay
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